Not consistent – now both settings say I'm 120 miles away. FireEagle also doesn't work, seems like xtex404 could be right

Periodically we have experienced the same result. Sometimes the wifi networks get moved and it takes a while for the wifi database to get updated.

Hah; I'm pretty amused by this the more I play with it. I never realized how bad Skyhook's database is in some cases. It looks like they mapped some residential areas a while back — especially near apartment complexes — then those people moved/relocated and took their access points with them…. so now their access point is in a different place than Skyhook thinks it is, and puts you in the entirely wrong place — not by miles, but by a hundred or two miles. :) This isn't bk's fault at all — my iPhone's "pseudoGPS" locates me in the same place before the actual GPS lock takes hold… Too bad there's not an easy way to tell skyhook "hey. this location is completely wrong!".

Off topic question, Brady… roughly how many people do you have working on the Brightkite project? I'm curious, because your iPhone app is 1000x better looking (and if it works like the video shows, 1000x better working) than loopt's app — and the site is much better written, interface, feature, and usability wise, and they seem to have 50+ people working for them.

No exact numbers — just "a lot more" or "a lot less" will work. ;)

And Apple said "push notifications would be out in September"… and they're not. And Windows Vista was supposed to be out in 2005. And Mac OS X Leopard was supposed to be released in June 2007, but got pushed to November. Delays happen in development (especially with the iPhone, since Apple keeps adding things to the SDK, or taking them out (push notification))…. and I think the BK guys learned from July to not give exact time frames on when software releases are coming out.

So yeah.. they could say "it will be out in 3 weeks!" but then everyone flips out and gives them huge negative press if it's not out in 3 weeks..

They're doing a decent job. I don't think them going "we're still working on it!" every 3 days would have done us any good, do you?

Hi Etex. We really spend the time to focus on user experience. Our team is small, much much less the 50+

As for the Brightkite iPhone app's "Guess My Location"/"Find Me". Is it using Loki Mobile?

Firefox 3.1b1 (Geolocation) "Guess my location": Neighborhood setting returns my exact address (house number and all) – privacy concerns; within 10' doesn't work – places me 120miles away (presumably the ISP HQ). Otherwise this is great,

Neat.. this works with Safari 3 on Mac too, using a Java plugin. I was afraid I was going to have to use Firefox. ;)

Awesome! This is a perfect use of Geode and Skyhook technology. Now, how about that native iPhone application?!

Wow, I love how quickly you implemented that service into Brightkite. Bravo.

You know what else will help you fetch a location? An iPhone. The new 3G has GPS, and the original iPhone can fetch it via cell towers and WiFI, and it's much more accurate than WiFi alone. Any update on the native app? How about a transcript of the chat? How about a single sentence indicating that you hear everyone clamoring for it? thanks.

I have to admit, i am checking in pretty regularly for the iphone app…. Can't wait for it.

I think beta-phase of the native app is still in progress.

This is just too cool, and it works perfectly. Is it placemarks that it favors or places that you've frequently visited? Is this pretty much how the iPhone app will work, with Brightkite suggesting likely places based on your location?

I have to admit.. it's almost scary how accurate this is.

You have been saying "very very close" for weeks.

Do you have a project manager? I don't think you guys are effectively prioritizing your deliverables / goals / milestones which will lead to slow deliver products development and new features.

Your updates to the community on the iPhone development which will soon be your core method of location awareness is non-existent. I am not in PR but one would think a START-UP company like yourself would want all of the expose they can get. Not only to generate user interest but to also generate more capital.

Hey just so you guys know this does not work with Firefox 3.1 beta 1, it goes and asks me what location type I want to disclose but after I pick any option, nothing happens.

We are very very close. If you would like to keep up with announcements friend Brightkite here: http://brightkite.com/people/brightkite or follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/brightkite

Yes, Brightkite "Place Snaps" to locations based on your history….and yes this is how the iPhone works :) Glad to hear Guess My Location is working well for you. Let us know if you run into any issues.

Hi Robert
Im glad to hear you are eagerly awaiting the iPhone release. When we say "soon" we do mean it this time :)

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/10...

http://vimeo.com/1984673